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A Conversation With a Police Union Leader

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In the weeks since George Floyd was killed by the Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, Americans have been confronting hard questions about bias and racism within law enforcement — and what the role of the police should be.

In the process, many have asked whether the culture of policing can be changed or if the system needs to be reimagined entirely. Today, we talk to an officer leading one of the country’s largest police unions about that debate and the killing of Rayshard Brooks.

On today’s episode:

  • Vince Champion, the southeast regional director of the International Brotherhood of Police Officers, in At

ImageA protest in late May outside the Barclays Center in New York over the killing of George Floyd.
Credit…Malike Sidibe

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