Joe Rogan doesn’t think Black people should be called Black.

“Well, isn’t that weird? The Black and white thing is so strange because the shades are so… there’s such a spectrum of shades of people,” he said on his podcast saying that Michael Eric Dyson is not Black.

“Unless you’re talking to someone who is, like, 100 percent African from the darkest place where they’re not wearing any clothes all day and they’ve developed all that melanin to protect themselves from the sun. Even the term Black is weird and when you use it for people that are literally my color, it becomes very strange.”