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From the outset, we’ve often highlighted that one of the most compelling aspects of Apple TV+’s new comedy series, Stick, is the variety of dynamics at play. The show’s stars, Peter Dager and Lilli Kay, wholeheartedly agree with this sentiment.

During a chat with DECIDER about the series, the actors explained that they were drawn to the script because it delves into the intricate relationships among Santi (Dager), Elena (Mariana Treviño), Pryce (Owen Wilson), Mitts (Marc Maron), and Zero (Kay).

Yet, for Kay, one particular relationship stood out for depicting a bond in a manner that’s not commonly shown, whether it’s touching, humorous, or a mix of both.

“I also really love Santi and Elena’s relationship. I think that there’s something really beautiful — we don’t really talk a lot about the ways in which we and our parents grow up in tandem,” Kay, who previously starred alongside Kevin Costner in Yellowstone, said. “We grow up together and I think both of them evolve so much together over the course of this season.”

She added, “It’s such a beautiful thing to see a parent and a child sort of able to do that together and able to support each other in that way, it’s really, really beautiful.”

Dager, meanwhile, pointed to a relationship between his on-screen love interest and another cast member, Maron, who would probably not have scenes together in any other show. While their characters don’t have many reason to interact aside from their mutual hope that Santi’s career takes off, series creator Jason Keller has managed to give the two characters a complex connection that transcends niceties.

“I love Mitts and Zero, I love their dynamic,” Dager explained. “I love what their relationship sort of talks about, and that generational gap and people who shouldn’t get along do because they get over themselves.”

(L-R) Peter Dager, Mariana Trevino, and Marc MAron in 'Stick'
Photo: Apple TV_

Check out DECIDER’s full interview with Kay and Dager below.


DECIDER: You guys are kind of the Gen Z representation on the show, you get the more fun, the young energy bits. Did you guys work with the creatives on crafting these personalities?

LILLI KAY: I think we got really lucky, both of us. There were things that were sort of shifting when we both came to these characters and they were still very much growing. And what the beautiful sort of element of this process was — the creator of the show was very invested in making who we are connect to these characters. So, for me, at least, I know there was a lot of conversation prior to my even setting foot on the set about how we are building this together. And I think it was so much fun because of that. And they were so interested in what we thought or what we had.

PETER DAGER: They really brought us into the writing process in a very special way. I mean, I think Lilli had a different experience than I did but I know Lilli and Jason [Keller} were very close and he trusted he trusted her with a lot of her lived experience. And for me, too, I know that there was a lot of conversations about Santi before we even got to shooting. And when I did chemistry reads with potential Elena’s — which now is Mariana Treviño — I remember the directors, John [Dayton] and Val [Faris], and executive producers being like, “Who did you feel good with?” and they really cared about the young people on the show […] As a young person in this industry, you sort of feel like you have to pay your dues, and you do, but it’s nice when you show them that you’re gonna show up and they trust that.

I love all the dynamics at play here, too but do you have a favorite dynamic between your own character and someone else, though?

DAGER: I say this a lot, but I love Mitts and Zero. I love their dynamic. I love what their relationship sort of talks about, and that generational gap and people who shouldn’t get along do because they get over themselves. I love that relationship.

KAY: Me too. I also really love Santi and Elena’s relationship. I think that there’s something really beautiful — we don’t really talk a lot about the ways in which we and our parents grow up in tandem. We grow up together and I think both of them evolve so much together over the course of this season. It’s such a beautiful thing to see a parent and a child sort of able to do that together and able to support each other in that way, it’s really, really beautiful.

(L-R) Lilli Kay, Mariana Treviño, Judy Greer, and MArc Maron in 'Stick'
Photo: Apple TV+

How much experience did you guys have coming in with golf? Who is the expert now? And if you were to go out and play a round today, which cast member would you want to be your caddy?

DAGER: Both answers are Lilli Kay. Lilli’s the expert now, everyone goes to her when they’re in trouble with their golf game. She has all the techniques that fix your game up. And who I would want to be my caddy is her as well.

KAY: I’ll do that part.

DAGER: Honestly, Owen [Wilson] probably is the greatest expert now because he just loves the game so much and he’s sort of obsessed. He loves it.

KAY: But you are, too.

DAGER: I know a lot, yeah. I know a lot, but Owen plays more often than I do, and I think out of all of us, he’s the expert. But I think, unanimously, you’d probably get Marc [Maron] or Lily as the most wanted caddies, because Marc would just be funny to have as a caddy.

KAY: That’d be fun.

GIving input the entire time, I think?

KAY: Oh, absolutely. Opinions about everything, probably just wanting you to move the game along.

DAGER: And if you didn’t listen to him, he’d be like, “Told you.”

KAY: He’s usually right so fair enough.

Mariana Trevino and Lilli Kay in 'Stick' on Apple TV+
Photo: Apple TV+

The first eight episodes of Stick are now streaming on Apple TV+. New episodes debut Wednesdays.

Apple TV+ comes with a seven-day free trial for new subscribers and has just one ad-free streaming plan available for $9.99/month.

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