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The recent shooting of Renee Good by an ICE officer in Minneapolis has sparked intense discussions surrounding the use of lethal force by federal authorities.
This debate isn’t confined to the general public. Conversations with several current and former ICE agents nationwide, as reported by the Daily Mail, reveal internal disagreements within the agency.
There is a stark division in opinions on whether the shooting was justified or if it constituted an act that some insiders have termed ‘murder.’
The ICE officer involved, Jonathan ‘Jon’ Ross, shot Good after she reportedly drove her SUV towards him, veering at the last moment.
While a number of his peers staunchly support Ross’s actions as legally defensible, others within the organization argue it signifies an alarming overstep.
Some agents even expressed that the incident has crossed a boundary that leaves them contemplating resignation due to concerns for their safety.
‘People don’t fully understand the deadly force aspect of law enforcement and how an investigator will dissect it,’ one ICE officer speaking on condition of anonymity told the Daily Mail.
‘Many come up with reasons why the agent shouldn’t have shot, but you cannot Monday morning quarterback this – you don’t know what the agent was thinking at that moment, what he saw and how he felt that justified him to use that level of force.’
The agent – based in Texas said 90 percent of his local agents believe the shooting was justified, however, they take issue with Ross letting off multiple rounds.
Agents with Immigration and Customs Enforcement and other federal agencies are generally prohibited from firing at moving vehicles.
But the policy allows exceptions when agents feel a person is ‘threatening deadly force’ and ‘no other objectively reasonable means of defense is available.’
The Texas agent added: ‘After watching and rewatching different angles of this shooting I think the first shot is justified.
‘The other two afterwards are the ones that can come back and bite him in the a**.
‘Should he be standing in front of the vehicle? No. But if you see the before, he is moving around to get the driver side door view point, but that’s when she starts moving the vehicle.’
Multiple federal agents told the Daily Mail the second and third shots fired at Good would likely never be justified and could result in criminal charges under normal circumstances.
Yet Vice President JD Vance all but cleared Ross, telling reporters on Thursday the agent has ‘immunity.’
The Texas agent spoke to a problem echoed by so many ICE agents: that they fear for their safety.
He added: ‘Now you have to look at the bigger picture: what placed that women there? Why where agents trying to get her out?
‘She had been following them for a while now blocking federal vehicles, so when the agents had enough of her, they decided to try and take her into custody. She decided to flee.’
A former senior DHS official echoed those fears about the safety of ICE officers, who are paid as little as $40,000 per year.
‘People are out there yelling at them and threatening them,’ the official said. ‘This was just a matter of time.
‘We all knew this was going to happen. Somebody was going to get killed somewhere.’
Jonathan Ross, the ICE agent who fatally shot a woman in Minneapolis. Grab taken from video
Renee Nicole Good was named as the woman shot dead by ICE in Minneapolis on Wednesday
‘Right now, 90 percent of their job is dealing with protesters, and they don’t want to be doing that.
‘Most officers would prefer to quietly go about their business as professionals and not be antagonistic in their duties.
‘Nobody wants to be harassed or put in a position where that officer was yesterday. Nobody wants their family to be threatened.’
He described morale as ‘pretty low,’ and described the pressure ICE officers face carrying out the Trump administration’s immigration crackdown, working long hours and often sent away from their families for extended periods.
However, agents with the same training across the country have less sympathy for Ross’s decision to fire.
Some flatly told Daily Mail he is ‘getting away with murder.’ ‘Regardless, it doesn’t matter. He’s not going to be charged with anything.
‘He’s literally going to get away with murder,’ an ICE agent in the New York City area told the Daily Mail.
‘It’s something called the Supremacy Clause. A federal agent, if he doing something in the line of duty, it doesn’t matter – you can charge him with murder – the federal government can come in, because it was in the line of duty, and come in and say, ‘This now is a federal matter. End of story.”
This agent also agreed that the second and third shots taken by Ross would not be justified. ‘There is wrong-doing. Based on the video alone, there is wrong doing.
‘The only way would be if she had a gun literally pointed at him as she was driving away. That’s the only way there would be justification to fire round two and three.’
Federal agents scuffle with protesters as immigration enforcement action continues the day after the fatal shooting of Renee Nicole Good by a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent, in Minneapolis, Minnesota
Vice President JD Vance addresses the media the day after the killing of a US citizen and mother by ICE. The US vice president said the agent who killed her had immunity
Federal agents stand next to a man they approached during immigration enforcement action the day after the fatal shooting of Renee Nicole Good by a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent, in Minneapolis, Minnesota
While a parade of top Trump officials defended Ross publicly, ICE agents worried what their blanket immunity means for the safety of the public.
‘Every other ICE or CBP agent is going to go, ‘Huh, maybe I’ll go to the gun now,” he said. ‘Maybe I’ll shoot first and ask questions later.’
A DHS official told the Mail there has been a lack of training among the new crop of ICE recruits after the agency rushed to hire over 10,000 new officers.
‘One of the things they cut down was firearms training and tactics,’ the official revealed.
‘They need to increase the training with everything that’s going on across the country, not cut back from it.
‘Now they’re going to have to bring back all these new people they hired and send them back to get more training because they didn’t get what they should have had the first time around.’
One former ICE agent said many of his former colleagues are now considering quitting out of fear there will be retaliation.
‘The pressure, the stress, the incredibly unrealistic work hours that they’re expected to work, it’s all weighing on ICE officers,’ the official said.
‘They’re being called Nazis and gestapo,’ the official continued. ‘It’s a terrible profession to even be in right now. It’s certainly not the agency that I knew for 30 years.
‘The amount of toxic rhetoric coming out of the most senior leaders in government is the most damaging of everything,’ the source added. ‘That is what riles up the antagonists. It’s what confuses law enforcement.
‘I’m hearing of more people looking to head for the exits than join right now because they don’t want to be part of this any longer,’ the official said. ‘And the ones that are interested in joining, it does not appear at all that they are joining for the right reasons, which is incredibly concerning about the future of the agency.
Another former ICE official who has a son currently working in the agency said: ‘It’s harder to be an ICE officer now than ever,’ the third official said. ‘This has become such a polarized profession with all these political agitators.
‘People go around calling ICE officers Nazis. Now everybody in this profession, whether they’re the nicest person you’ve ever met, if they work for ICE they’re seen as all vile people. And that’s not fair.’
‘Look, they’re tired,’ the continued. ‘Some officers have been doing operations non-stop since last January. Some of these guys have been working six, seven days a week. It’s at the point where it’s affecting their family life.