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Former MSNBC host Joy Reid has resurfaced for the first time since being fired by the liberal network just to wildly claim Canada would most definitely beat the US in a war. Reid, 56, joined ex-CNN host Don Lemon on his show to discuss Trump’s ‘absurd’ plan to take over Canada and make it the 51st State.

‘First of all, you can’t make Canada the 51st State without going to war with them,’ she told Lemon on Thursday. ‘And let me explain how that happened, how that worked out the last time we tried to go to war with Canada. ‘They burned the White House to the ground in 1814 and won the war.’

She’s referring to the War of 1812, which broke out after the US invaded Canada in hopes of conquering the country – which was then part of the British Empire – in order to get the British to stop encroaching on their maritime rights during the Napoleonic Wars. As the US was unable to attack the Royal Navy, it set its eyes on Canada. The British eventually occupied Washington, DC, in 1814 and began burning the city in revenge for the Americans torching York, present-day Toronto.

British Admiral George Cockburn ordered his British and Canadian troops to burn the White House – which was occupied by President James Madison – the Capitol Building, and the Library of Congress. The war ended in a stalemate and the Treaty of Ghent was signed on December 24, 1814. The treaty stated that each country would maintain the land they had previously occupied, according to the US Constitution Museum.

Reid claimed that ‘Canada beat us in the War of 1812’ and said ‘they probably like their chances against us.’ ‘We’re not going to beat them in a war because we have never been able to do that,’ Reid told Lemon, slightly butchering history. ‘You’d have to occupy a country that is equivalent of the size of the United States, in which the top two-thirds of it is uninhabited frozen forest land that touches the Arctic,’ she continued. ‘And you know how that worked out when the Nazis tried that with Russia, which is the equivalent of Canada on that part of the world. ‘We’re going to lose.’

The Germans launched Operation Barbarossa in June 1941 to invade the Soviet Union in World War II. It was one of Adolf Hitler’s first defeats in the war and an estimated 20 million died, with 775,000 military casualties on the German side and more than 800,000 Soviet soldiers died in the frozen tundra, many from frostbite and hypothermia. The Germans’ attack on Russia became one of the deadliest military operations in history, according to Smithsonian Associates. Reid went on to pad her argument by saying that Canadians have ‘about as many guns per capita as we do.’
![However, as of 2017, the US had nearly 400 million civilian firearms compared to Canada's 12.7 million, according to World Population Review . The US has a population 8.5 times bigger than Canada, with approximately 340 million to 40 million citizens. Even if Canadian civilian gun ownership increased by the same amount, it would not come near America's total. Reid went on to say that the only reason the US has more shootings than their neighbor to the North is because '[Canadians] don't take their guns to Walmart.'](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/03/21/18/96253829-0-However_as_of_2017_the_US_had_nearly_400_million_civilian_firear-a-50_1742582011645.jpg)
However, as of 2017, the US had nearly 400 million civilian firearms compared to Canada’s 12.7 million, according to World Population Review . The US has a population 8.5 times bigger than Canada, with approximately 340 million to 40 million citizens. Even if Canadian civilian gun ownership increased by the same amount, it would not come near America’s total. Reid went on to say that the only reason the US has more shootings than their neighbor to the North is because ‘[Canadians] don’t take their guns to Walmart.’

‘But they got a lot of guns,’ she said. ‘And they’ve beat us in a war before so that’s issue number one. ‘You cannot absorb a country against their will. And this talk of making them the 51st State is absurd.’ New Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney stuck it to Trump just have been instated in his new role last week, calling the idea of absorbing Canada ‘crazy.’
!['I’ve been clear, that we will never, ever, in any way, shape, or form, be part of the United States. America is not Canada,' he declared at a press conference. 'We are very fundamentally [a] different country,' he said, before forcibly stating: 'We're the masters in our home. We're in charge.' He also sternly reminded Trump that Canada was nothing to step on, especially as they proved to be valuable economic partners and demanded Trump treat the country appropriately.](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/03/21/18/96440509-0-_I_ve_been_clear_that_we_will_never_ever_in_any_way_shape_or_for-a-55_1742582011839.jpg)
‘I’ve been clear, that we will never, ever, in any way, shape, or form, be part of the United States. America is not Canada,’ he declared at a press conference. ‘We are very fundamentally [a] different country,’ he said, before forcibly stating: ‘We’re the masters in our home. We’re in charge.’ He also sternly reminded Trump that Canada was nothing to step on, especially as they proved to be valuable economic partners and demanded Trump treat the country appropriately.

Although Carney called Trump a ‘successful business maker,’ he was quick to remind the Commander-in-Chief that Canada is his ‘largest client in so many industries.’ ‘Clients expect respect,’ he admitted, before saying he expects America to work with them in a ‘proper commercial way.’

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