JD Vance wins over Bill Maher's liberal audience

Bill Maher said his “vote is in play” for the 2028 presidential race during a tense exchange with JD Vance, who argued that Big Tech helped “rig” the 2020 election by suppressing information and undermining what he called a genuine marketplace of ideas.

The still-divisive 2020 election — long one of President Donald Trump’s most politically charged liabilities — resurfaced on Friday’s episode of HBO’s Real Time, where Maher and Vance sparred over Trump’s continued refusal to concede that contest.

Maher challenged Vance directly, asking whether he would help “bring the country back to the middle” by accepting defeat if an election were conducted fairly and lost legitimately.

Vance’s response appeared to resonate in the studio, drawing a strong round of applause from the audience.

“Okay, Bill, so this is where I’m probably going to lose you here,” Vance said as he began his answer.

The vice president said that, in principle, candidates should accept the outcome of legitimate elections. But he insisted the 2020 race could not be reduced solely to Trump’s unwillingness to acknowledge the result.

Rather than offering a simple yes-or-no answer, Vance shifted to broader complaints about the environment surrounding the election, arguing that media and technology companies treated conservatives differently from liberals and influenced what information voters were able to see.

“Set to the side the stuff that really gets you and your audience very angry, about whether the count was legitimate in Georgia or Pennsylvania or any of these other states,” Vance said.

Bill Maher admitted his 'vote is in play' for the 2028 presidential election on Friday's episode of HBO's Real Time

Bill Maher admitted his ‘vote is in play’ for the 2028 presidential election on Friday’s episode of HBO’s Real Time

The 2020 election flared back into focus during an exchange between the liberal host and Vice President JD Vance during the episode

The 2020 election flared back into focus during an exchange between the liberal host and Vice President JD Vance during the episode

Vance claimed Big Tech 'rigged' the 2020 election by censoring information and 'obliterating the real open exchange of ideas'

Vance claimed Big Tech ‘rigged’ the 2020 election by censoring information and ‘obliterating the real open exchange of ideas’

Those allegations – fake ballots, voter-counting fraud, Dominion voting machines and key swing states – were heavily investigated and litigated, with no evidence found that widespread fraud changed the outcome of the election.

But Vance argued the election was ‘rigged’ not because votes were wrongly counted, but because social media companies censored and boosted certain stories, shaping what Americans saw before heading to the ballot box. 

‘The sense in which I think the election in 2020 was rigged, is that you had technology companies that were putting their thumb on the scale in a way that completely obliterated the real open exchange of ideas,’ he said.

‘By the way, it didn’t happen in 2024 but it happened in 2020 and it was a problem.’

Tech giants including Meta, Google, YouTube, TikTok and X continued to moderate and algorithmically promote content in both 2020 and 2024, though their policies have since evolved. 

The aftermath of the 2020 election triggered a wave of lawsuits from Trump and his allies alleging fraud – claims repeatedly rejected in court. 

Both sides were affected by platform moderation, although conservatives have argued it appeared to hit them harder amid a wave of election-related claims. Platforms deny any bias, insisting rules are applied evenly across the board.     

Since then, tech policy has shifted amid the fallout from the 2020 election, the January 6 Capitol riot, the COVID misinformation surge and growing regulatory pressure. 

Maher pressed him on Trump's refusal to concede the 2020 election. Vance argued that media companies portrayed conservatives differently from liberals unfairly

Maher pressed him on Trump’s refusal to concede the 2020 election. Vance argued that media companies portrayed conservatives differently from liberals unfairly

Previous allegations of fake ballots, voter-counting fraud, Dominion voting machines and key swing states were heavily investigated and litigated with no evidence found

Previous allegations of fake ballots, voter-counting fraud, Dominion voting machines and key swing states were heavily investigated and litigated with no evidence found

Tech policy has shifted amid the fallout from the 2020 election, the January 6 Capitol riot, the COVID misinformation surge

Tech policy has shifted amid the fallout from the 2020 election, the January 6 Capitol riot, the COVID misinformation surge 

The aftermath of the 2020 election triggered a wave of lawsuits from Trump and his allies alleging fraud - claims repeatedly rejected in court

The aftermath of the 2020 election triggered a wave of lawsuits from Trump and his allies alleging fraud – claims repeatedly rejected in court

But the interview didn’t stop there. Maher pressed Vance on a string of Trump administration issues, including DEI-related firings and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. 

Vance appeared to land another rare win with Maher’s anti-Maga audience during another war of words over Pentagon staffing under Hegseth.

Maher accused him of race-based firings, saying: ‘Did they go too far, probably, in the Pentagon with DEI and… yes, and now Pete Hegseth is like firing everyone who’s not whiter than an albino.’

‘No, he’s not! Come on, Bill!’ the vice president fired back, before Maher argued it ‘certainly looks that way.’

‘I disagree with that,’ Vance said. ‘I think sometimes things land right where they should but you take the story about Pete Hegseth.’

‘Obviously I’m biased, I like Pete, but if you look at the actual promotions we’ve done, there have been a lot of people from all walks of life,’ he added.

‘There have been some high profile people, where he said, you know what, I don’t think they merited a promotion. But the idea we are not promoting minorities in the Pentagon under Pete Hegseth, it’s just not true.’

Vance once again turned to the media, claiming they ‘actually obfuscate or conceal the truth rather than reporting what’s actually going on,’ a line that drew another round of applause.

Maher accused Hegseth of race-based firings, saying: 'Hegseth is like firing everyone who's not whiter than an albino'

Maher accused Hegseth of race-based firings, saying: ‘Hegseth is like firing everyone who’s not whiter than an albino’

Vance fired back, saying: 'Obviously I'm biased, I like Pete, but if you look at the actual promotions we've done, there have been a lot of people from all walks of life'

Vance fired back, saying: ‘Obviously I’m biased, I like Pete, but if you look at the actual promotions we’ve done, there have been a lot of people from all walks of life’

Hegseth has fired or sidelined nearly three dozen senior military officers

Hegseth has fired or sidelined nearly three dozen senior military officers

Maher appeared to agree. ‘Of course they do, they all do!’ he said. ‘That’s why you have to read both sides.’

However, Hegseth has fired or sidelined nearly three dozen senior military officers as part of a broader campaign to purge the Pentagon of leaders he has called ‘foolish,’ ‘reckless’ and ‘woke,’ according to several outlets including NPR and The New York Times.

Senator Jack Reed, the top Democrat on the Armed Services Committee, claimed in recent Senate testimony that nearly 60 percent of senior officers removed under Hegseth have been female or black. 

‘You are hollowing out the military’s bench of experience and highest-performing senior officers, while making young officers wonder if they should continue to serve,’ Reed told him at a recent hearing.

In March, Hegseth blocked the promotions of four Army colonels – two women and two Black men – to one-star general, despite recommendations from the Army Secretary. 

Earlier this month, he removed nine Navy officers from a one-star promotion list – among them three women and two Black men. The revised 22-person list contained no women and just two non-white officers. 

Both current and former defense officials said the moves are highly unusual, explaining that officers are typically only removed for moral, mental, physical or professional failings. 

Taken together, the moves could reshape the military’s top ranks for years to come.

In March, Hegseth blocked the promotions of four Army colonels - two women and two Black men - to one-star general

In March, Hegseth blocked the promotions of four Army colonels – two women and two Black men – to one-star general

Senator Jack Reed claimed hat nearly 60 percent of senior officers removed under Hegseth have been female or black

Senator Jack Reed claimed hat nearly 60 percent of senior officers removed under Hegseth have been female or black

Maher made a surprise revelation, saying he could see himself voting for either Vance or Marco Rubio if the Democratic Party were taken over by socialists

Maher made a surprise revelation, saying he could see himself voting for either Vance or Marco Rubio if the Democratic Party were taken over by socialists

Meanwhile, by the end of the interview, Maher made a surprise revelation, admitting he could see himself voting for either Vance or Marco Rubio if the Democratic Party were taken over by socialists.

The late-night host said: ‘If this is where the Democratic Party is going, where this Democratic socialist, this obsession with Israel, with the Jew hating, they don’t believe in capitalism, no prisons…’

‘If this is where they’re going, my vote is in play,’ he added, to which Vance replied that he ‘likes to hear that.’

‘It actually always has been. Every year, I don’t make my decision by who has an R or a D, I actually always came to the conclusion that the Democrat was probably better and voted for them,’ Maher continued.

‘And Trump can’t run again and he’d be a little too exciting for me anyway. So it’s either going to be you or Rubio.’

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