The juror who stood alone against acquitting Lindsay Clancy says he never wavered in his belief that she was guilty, despite efforts by fellow jurors to persuade him to support a verdict of not guilty by reason of insanity in the deaths of her three children.
NewsNation identified the juror as Michael P. Desronvil. He told the outlet that he had “no doubts,” contradicting earlier comments from jury foreperson Roni Carlson.
“As I tried to explain different possible theories during deliberations, I kept getting cut off as I had doubts based on the evidence present,” he claimed.
He said the evidence convinced him that Clancy understood what she was doing and had planned the deaths of her children: five-year-old Cora, three-year-old Dawson and eight-month-old Callan.
In another interview with Ray Marcel of Fugitive TV, the juror reportedly said he believed Clancy knew the difference between right and wrong.
“He said he knew that she was guilty because of the evidence that he saw,” Marcel recalled. “He felt she was not insane at the time and knew what she was doing.”
Marcel did not release the conversation itself, but said the juror spoke with him for more than an hour by phone because he wanted to respond to what he viewed as disparaging comments made by other jurors in the media after the trial.
According to Marcel, the juror said some public statements about him were “not the whole truth, the half-truth, or outright lies.” That included claims that he had only voted against Clancy because he harbored reasonable doubt about her guilt.
Ray Marcel, host of Fugitive TV, described his conversation with the Lindsay Clancy trial’s holdout juror, who said he maintained his guilty vote because he was never persuaded that the mother was legally insane
The Lindsay Clancy trial drew intense national attention after she admitted strangling her three children—five-year-old Cora, three-year-old Dawson and eight-month-old Callan—but pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity
Clancy’s case divided public opinion after she acknowledged strangling her children while maintaining that she was not criminally responsible because of insanity.
The jury ultimately reached an 11-1 impasse. Marcel said the holdout juror described the 40 hours of deliberations as tense and contentious from the beginning.
Since the trial ended, social media users have engaged in a vigorous effort to uncover the juror’s identity.
NBC Boston reported on domestic violence allegations involving the juror and his former wife without naming him. The allegations relate to a 2021 dispute for which he was arrested but never prosecuted.
During his conversation with Marcel, the juror said his decision was influenced by what he described as Clancy’s preparation before the killings. He pointed to her sending her husband, Patrick, out to run errands before she attacked the children.
Marcel also claimed the juror was shocked by the hostility directed at him after casting the lone vote for conviction. The juror reportedly believed some of the backlash from fellow jurors was connected to his being a “black Republican.”
Clancy used exercise bands to strangle her children in 2023
The Clancy murder trial ended in a mistrial earlier this month, and prosecutors have not said whether they will pursue a retrial or seek a plea agreement
After NBC Boston reported the juror’s arrest over domestic violence allegations in 2021, questions emerged about how he was selected. Prospective jurors are generally required to disclose previous arrests or criminal charges during the screening process.
Marcel said the juror denied misleading the court, insisting that he had marked the appropriate response on the jury questionnaire and was selected despite doing so.
He said the holdout juror told him the allegations stemmed from a turbulent ‘fraudulent marriage,’ and their relationship rapidly deteriorated when Desronvil allegedly discovered she was an illegal immigrant.
‘He didn’t know that, and he told me that’s pretty much when everything hit the fan,’ Marcel said on his YouTube show.
He said the holdout juror told him that his former partner raised domestic violence allegations in retaliation after he filed for divorce.
In 2025, the holdout juror was also alleged to have attacked his nephew by shoving him to the ground and striking him in the face, according to reported restraining order documents obtained by NBC Boston.
The juror was also not prosecuted over that incident, the outlet reports, and Marcel said the juror told him that he did not want to get into those allegations beyond saying that ‘the truth will come out.’
Jury foreperson Roni Carlson previously told NBC10 that the holdout juror ‘admitted he had reasonable doubt,’ but Marcel reported this was disputed.
‘He felt that she was sane when she did it. And that’s exactly what he told me,’ Marcel recalled in an interview with NewsNation.
Desronvil reportedly insisted that despite the deliberations ending in deadlock, the jury was not unanimously against the holdout juror from the start and their conversations began with just eight jurors wanting to acquit Clancy.
‘They were doing their best to convince,’ Marcel said, adding that two of the jurors were undecided, and the holdout juror had at least one other person who also believed she was guilty.
Marcel said Desronvil told him the other juror was on his side ‘until the last moment,’ at which point she ‘caved and voted with the rest.’
‘He said he didn’t know if it was due to the pressure (from the other jurors), but he didn’t care,’ Marcel continued.
‘He said he knew that she was guilty because of the evidence that he saw. He felt he was not insane at the time and knew what she was doing.’
Clancy admitted to killing her children, but pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity as she claimed she was suffering postpartum psychosis and was overmedicated
The holdout juror attempted to convince others of Clancy’s guilt by using a water bottle and string to demonstrate how she strangled their ‘little necks’, Marcel revealed
Over 40 hours of deliberations, Marcel said Desronvil told him the conversations grew agitated, and at one point he used a water bottle and a piece of string to demonstrate the force Clancy would have used to strangle her children to death.
‘He tied a string around the water bottle, and did it to set and example and show people, “Imagine the water bottle as their little necks,”‘ he recalled.
Asked what convinced the holdout juror of Clancy’s guilt, Marcel told NewsNation that he was told that he felt ‘she was sane by the preparation she did’ before strangling her children.
Marcel told NewsNation the fact Clancy took her time’ strangling each child, some in separate rooms to the other also helped sway Desronvil’s decision.
‘The preparation showed that she was sane and knew what she was doing, pretty much knew right from wrong, before she did what she did,’ Marcel said Desronvil told him.
Marcel explained he decided to share the juror’s perspective amid the huge response and vitriol directed at the holdout juror.
‘No matter if you agree with him or not, his name shouldn’t have been put out there like that,’ the Fugitive TV host said.
‘No juror should be put to the forefront like that, because it’s their civic duty to do that, and they should be protected. He never asked for any of this whatsoever.’
