'Changing your parts doesn't make you a woman': Macy Gray, 54, made her views on Trans issues clear in a no holds barred interview with Piers Morgan on Monday
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Macy Gray made her opinion on trans issues clear on Monday as she sat down with Piers Morgan on his TalkTv show.

During the no holds barred interview the singer, 54, also spoke about her recent controversial comments about changing the American flag.

She told the host: ‘Just because you go and change your parts doesn’t make you a woman, sorry.’

'Changing your parts doesn't make you a woman': Macy Gray, 54, made her views on Trans issues clear in a no holds barred interview with Piers Morgan on Monday

‘Changing your parts doesn’t make you a woman’: Macy Gray, 54, made her views on Trans issues clear in a no holds barred interview with Piers Morgan on Monday

Piers, 57, then said that he believed most public figures were too terrified to say ‘what a woman is’.

The singer replied: ‘I know!.. I would say a human being with boobs. How about you start there? And a vagina.’

Adding: ‘Now that’s getting confusing.’

During the interview that aired Monday at 8pm, the duo discussed the issue of trans women in sport as the host said: ‘I support all trans rights to fairness and equality’. 

Controversial: During the no holds barred interview the singer, 54, also spoke about her recent controversial comments about changing the American flag (pictured earlier this year)

Controversial: During the no holds barred interview the singer, 54, also spoke about her recent controversial comments about changing the American flag (pictured earlier this year)

Macy replied: ‘Me too.’

Before Piers added: ‘But not when you have people born to obvious physical superior bodies, transitioning and then thrashing women at their sports.’

Macy responded: ‘I totally agree. And I will say this, and everybody is going to hate me, but as a woman, just because you go and change your parts doesn’t make you a woman, sorry… I know that for a fact’.

Interview: Piers, 57, then said that he believed most public figures were too terrified to say 'what a woman is'

Interview: Piers, 57, then said that he believed most public figures were too terrified to say ‘what a woman is’

Outspoken: She went on to say: 'A woman goes through a completely unique experience and surgery and finding yourself doesn't change that. Being a little girl is a whole epic book, you know? You can't have that just because you want to be a woman.'

Outspoken: She went on to say: ‘A woman goes through a completely unique experience and surgery and finding yourself doesn’t change that. Being a little girl is a whole epic book, you know? You can’t have that just because you want to be a woman.’

Adding: ‘If you want me to call you a ‘her’, I will, because that’s what you want but that doesn’t make you a woman just because I call you a ‘her’ and just because you got a surgery’.

She went on to say: ‘A woman goes through a completely unique experience and surgery and finding yourself doesn’t change that. Being a little girl is a whole epic book, you know? You can’t have that just because you want to be a woman.’

When Piers pointed out that Harry Potter author JK Rowling had been criticised for her views on trans women, Macy said: ‘But it’s the truth.’

Criticized: When Piers pointed out that Harry Potter author JK Rowling had been criticised for her views on trans women, Macy said: 'But it's the truth.'

Criticized: When Piers pointed out that Harry Potter author JK Rowling had been criticised for her views on trans women, Macy said: ‘But it’s the truth.’

Flag: Speaking about comments she made when suggesting the American flag should be resigned she said she was 'excited to bring it [the subject] up again'

Flag: Speaking about comments she made when suggesting the American flag should be resigned she said she was ‘excited to bring it [the subject] up again’

Adding: ‘I don’t think you should be called transphobic just because you don’t agree… there is a lot of judgement and throwing stones at people for just saying what it is, do you know what I mean?’.

Speaking about comments she made when suggesting the American flag should be resigned she said she was ‘excited to bring it [the subject] up again’.

 ‘My idea was to make the stars the colours of all of us. So there would be a star representing you, one representing me, one representing everybody in the room, right. So that way you look up to the flag, you feel welcome, you feel included, you feel like you belong there’.

Gray claimed ‘the flag was conceptualised’ and created to reflect what was occurring at the time – which was war. 

‘That was not a thing we celebrate, a flag that represents war,’ she said. 

She added, ‘It’s not that it’s about white people, it’s just that everything is different than when Lincoln was President. Whoever designed that flag designed it for that day. I’m just saying what’s wrong with a new flag and what’s wrong with representing where we are now?’

It comes after it was reported Piers will take a month off from his show later in the summer, as the programme struggles to attract the same audiences that tuned in when it first launched.

Holiday: Piers will have about a month off from his Talk TV show later in the summer, as the programme struggles to attract the same audiences that tuned in when it first launched

Holiday: Piers will have about a month off from his Talk TV show later in the summer, as the programme struggles to attract the same audiences that tuned in when it first launched

The former Good Morning Britain star, averaged more than 300,000 viewers for his debut episode on April 25, in which he interviewed the former US president Donald Trump.

But since then the viewing figures have plunged, with recent episodes getting about 30,000 viewers.

 It has emerged that the presenter will not be on the channel for about four weeks in late summer, as a result of pre-scheduled holiday along with filming commitments for a true crime documentary series he is making.

 Earlier this year, former GB News chairman and lead presenter Andrew Neil never returned from an extended holiday after falling out with his bosses.

For the full interview, watch Piers Morgan Uncensored tonight at 8pm on TalkTV. 

Famous friends: The former Good Morning Britain star  averaged more than 300,000 viewers for his debut episode on April 25, in which he interviewed the former US president Donald Trump

Famous friends: The former Good Morning Britain star  averaged more than 300,000 viewers for his debut episode on April 25, in which he interviewed the former US president Donald Trump

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