A range of alleged nonhuman beings have flown around Earth in various types of UFOs—including figures resembling Greek gods, seven-foot-tall reptilian creatures and small gray entities—and some may have killed US service members, UFO whistleblower David Grusch claimed during a startling appearance on the Joe Rogan podcast.
Grusch, a retired Air Force officer and former intelligence official with the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency and National Reconnaissance Office, said he learned of the extraordinary accounts through his work with the UAP Task Force in 2020.
“Even for me, ex-deep state intel officer, I’m like, I cannot believe I’m talking about this on Joe Rogan,” Grusch told the host. “And I mean, I know it sounds schizo.”
He predicted that the episode could eventually be revisited as evidence of claims once dismissed as implausible. “We thought he was crazy, but what do you know? It’s true,” Grusch said people might one day conclude.
Grusch also said he had viewed footage from what was described as a “contemporary” UFO crash site, where military personnel allegedly found as many as four dead alien bodies inside a crescent-shaped craft.
According to Grusch, the bodies appeared human-like and had an almost “Greek god” quality.
“It was just very beautiful,” he said while describing one of the beings shown in the video.
Grusch said the footage was presented to him during his investigation and that he was able to independently verify its authenticity.
Other reported entities, he said, were described as resembling massive reptilian gorillas.
“Seven-foot tall plus, gorilla-looking, scaly skin though,” Grusch said, emphasizing that he had not personally seen the creatures but had received what he considered credible accounts from witnesses.
He further claimed that some reptilian beings survived a crash recovery before being shot and killed by military personnel.
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“They were killed … they are mortal,” Grusch said. He alleged that one of the creatures had killed US personnel at the site, prompting the military response.
“At some point that story will come out,” Grusch said, adding that he expected people involved in those incidents to eventually speak publicly.
Grusch claimed the reptilian entities had been operating a so-called Tic Tac-shaped UFO, similar to the object encountered by Navy Commander David Fravor off the coast of San Diego in 2004.
He also mentioned “small grays” as another alleged alien species and suggested they may be in conflict with the reptilian beings.
Those alleged clashes between different nonhuman species, Grusch said, could account for some of the crashes reportedly recovered by the US government.
“Why do these things keep crashing?” Rogan asked.
“Some of it is [non-human intelligence] versus [non-human intelligence],” Grusch replied. “You would think, it’s like, would they get along? They’re so advanced. But we have records of them f–king around with each other.”
The alleged extraterrestrial visitors, Grusch said, have been associated with a broad assortment of craft.
“So obviously there has been physical craft of all different flavors like I’ve talked about,” he said. “You know the Tic Tacs are real. There’s eggs. There’s different types of discs. There’s boot heels. Sunfish-looking things. Boomerangs, crescent moon-looking craft as well.”
Grusch was confident that all of this information will be released to the public in the coming years.
“So I believe that before Trump’s term ends that it’s all going to come out,” he said.
“Everything I’ve testified about, the fact that we’ve been studying this for a while. We’ve recovered material . . . intact, semi-intact craft. We’ve recovered this anomalous intelligence piloting craft. And, you know, we are reverse engineering that,” Grusch said.
