Elizabeth Holmes’ Partner Billy Evans on His Feud With Nathan Fielder

The eagerly awaited documentary about disgraced Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes is likely to leave viewers pondering far more than the rise and fall of the convicted entrepreneur.

Chief among those questions is why Billy Evans, Holmes’s partner and the father of their two children, chose to let filmmakers document the private life of his family just days before she reported to prison.

You Can See Everything has earned widespread praise as a daring piece of filmmaking. Variety called it a “psychodrama circus,” while another prominent critic described it as a “stupefying and glorious destabilizing hall of psychological mirrors” that leaves everyone involved exposed.

Evans, however, shows no sign of regretting a decision many observers find difficult to understand. Instead, he remains firm that allowing the cameras inside was the right thing to do.

“Judge me. Hate me. Think I’m an idiot. That’s okay. Watch it and make up your own mind,” he said, offering an impassioned defense of his collaboration with director Nathan Fielder.

“I know why I made the choices I made.”

Holmes became one of Silicon Valley’s most notorious figures after her $9 billion blood-testing company, Theranos, fell apart when it emerged that the promised technology did not work. Her story later fueled the bestselling podcast Bad Blood and Hulu’s drama series The Dropout, starring Amanda Seyfried.

After being found guilty of defrauding investors in 2022, Holmes received a prison sentence of more than 11 years. Her extraordinary collapse from celebrated startup founder to convicted fraudster continues to attract intense public interest around the world.

Even before its release, the documentary’s trailer attracted widespread attention, particularly for its intensely personal close-ups of Holmes’s wide, unwavering blue eyes.

In one of his first interviews since the project was revealed, Evans says he agreed to the filming to help Holmes and preserve their relationship as the family prepared for an ordeal unlike anything they had faced before.

“Liz was about to disappear into federal prison for years,” he said. “Our kids were babies. She had spent years being turned into a character by other people. I felt there should at least be an honest record of who she really was at that point.

“I understood that an honest record could sometimes make me look bad. That was the cost of making sure it was real.

“More than anything, I admire Liz for finding the courage to be so vulnerable during the most difficult period of her life.”

Holmes, now 42, is serving her sentence at a minimum-security federal prison in Bryan, Texas. Her term was shortened by one year under the First Step Act, which applies to certain non-violent, first-time offenders, and she may qualify for further early release based on good conduct. She remains separated from Evans and their children, William, five, and Ivy, three, who have been told that their mother is “at work.”

Running for almost three hours, You Can See Everything chronicles the family’s final period together before Holmes entered prison in 2023. It also examines a relationship that began as her public reputation was collapsing.

The filmmakers’ decision to bring in Nathan Fielder has also surprised many viewers. The comedian and director is known for unsettling, satirical projects that deliberately blur the boundary between reality and performance.

Fielder and fellow filmmaker Lance Oppenheim have since spoken about disputes with Evans, along with a deterioration in communication during the making of the documentary.

Some viewers and commentators see Evans as controlling, but he says: ‘If I wanted to control the story, I chose the worst filmmaker on Earth to give unlimited access to. We picked Nathan Fielder precisely because we couldn’t control him.’

Despite their public falling out, Evans, who has yet to see the documentary, goes so far as to praise the filmmakers, saying: ‘I admire Nathan, Lance and [production company] A24 for taking the risk of making something this ambitious without knowing where the story would go.’

Evans’s relationship with Holmes has been the subject of intense public scrutiny since it first began. They met in October 2017, at a charity event in San Francisco. Theranos was already under investigation and Holmes’s once-lauded career had imploded.

Evans, whose family owns a successful hospitality business, says: ‘I expected to be there for maybe five minutes. My friend introduced me to Liz. She was wearing a hat and sunglasses, so I didn’t recognize her at first. But we ended up talking for hours.’

He had read newspaper reports about her and Theranos – and was confused to find himself rather taken with the person in front of him.

‘I don’t know if it was love at first sight,’ he says. ‘After our first conversation, I knew she was going to be important to me in some way. It is hard not to have concerns and questions when everything I read said one thing and then my personal experience with her was completely different.’

For six months they were friends, each dating other people. Eventually, he says, ‘I realized that I wished the people I was dating were more like her. So I was saying to myself: “You idiot! Why won’t you date her?”‘

‘The shift was pretty organic from there. We already spent every moment together when we were both in the Bay. One day I told her: “I am telling people that you are my girlfriend now. Is that OK?”‘

His friends were skeptical. Evans came from a prosperous family; there were easier paths he might have taken.

‘Most of them thought, before they met her, that I was crazy,’ he admits. ‘But after they met her, they each developed relationships with her. She became part of family and close friends. There was no division about her. It just made sense.’

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Shortly after their relationship began, they were catapulted into the media circus of her trial. Evans recalls paparazzi, drones over the house and threats to the couple. Holmes was found guilty of four counts – one count of conspiracy to defraud investors and three counts of wire fraud; Evans continues to fight the conviction on a daily basis.

Some have seen their decision to have children during this time as one calculated to elicit sympathy for Holmes.

‘For me, it is simple,’ he says. ‘You find someone you love; you want to have children together.’

He describes the moment he knew she was the one: ‘I wanted our kids to be more like her than me, that’s when I knew. Wills is so much like his mom. He has an enormous heart, and he isn’t afraid to show it. He sees a kid falling, he immediately runs to help him and give him a hug.’

Evans says that, since Holmes’s imprisonment, she writes to him and to their children every day. Those close to the couple talk about a genuine love story.

‘The letters are so beautiful. They are handwritten,’ he says. ‘She cuts up pictures she finds in magazines and hand draws pictures. Wills is into animals now. She is doing research with him. She is trying to be part of his learning from afar.’

Evans now runs a technology company while organizing a life around school runs and work. When asked how he manages everything, he is surprisingly frank.

‘I am self-aware enough to recognize how privileged I am,’ he says. ‘I have the ability to raise my kids in a safe environment, put food on their table, have help from family and friends.

‘I have lots of respect for parents who are facing the same or similar situations, raising their kids alone. I mean people who lost their partners, are single parents or like me, their partner is incarcerated. I don’t take for granted that I still have a partner and that she makes every effort to be involved as much as she possibly can.’

Families from both sides of the relationship weigh in. There is childcare. The routine he describes is busy, but deliberately ordinary. Reading practice in the morning. Packed lunches. School. Work. Home for dinner.

‘I wake up with the kids early in the morning. We feed the dog, have breakfast then Wills and I sit down for a game of chess. We pack up their lunch, and we drop them at school before nine. I go to work until five, maybe six. Then I go home, we have dinner.

‘We play in the backyard and play make-believe, we color, we read books. I am very intentional about putting the phone away during this time. This time is 100 percent focused on them; while their mom is not physically present with us, I need to give them all of me.

‘At the end of each day we read their mom’s letters before bed. The letters are just incredible testaments of her love and longing.’

The children visit their mother and, he says, he and Holmes have tried to make the partings as painless as possible.

‘We choose to give them strength. There are big hugs, always a focus on staying in the present moment, that we are together. When it’s time to leave, we are not saying long goodbyes. It’s always, “We’ll see you next week.”‘

He says that for Holmes, missing out on being with her family is incredibly difficult. ‘The single most difficult aspect of incarceration is being away from our children, especially when they are sick. She feels so deeply and that pain is nearly too much to bear.’

And for him? His answer is very short at first: ‘To see her in pain.’ After a pause, he adds: ‘I can’t just give her a hug. I can’t be with her at three in the morning when our kids are sick. And there are so many little memories that I share with her via phone calls and emails. I can’t wait for Liz to come home, so we can experience just the small moments of everyday life together again.’

I ask who is stronger in the relationship. ‘If you ask Liz, she would say it is me. If you ask me, I would say it is Liz. We make each other stronger. When one is down the other one is up.’

On October 7, the ninth anniversary of the day they met, Holmes quietly arranged a surprise through friends.

‘Even from prison, she found a way to make the day special. I came home to all my favorite Burmese food: tea leaf salad, noodles. There were sunflowers on the table, the same ones I used to bring her for no reason at all, or on days when I knew she needed it. For dessert, she’d arranged for friends to bring chocolate-chip cookies and vanilla ice cream. And she wrote me a letter that made me feel whole again.

‘Between calls, I think of things I want to tell her a hundred times a day. Something happens with the kids, or I see something beautiful or absurd that I know we’d laugh about together, and she’s always the first person I want to tell. She’s my best friend. I miss sharing those moments.

‘Nine years later, after all this pain and nearly three and a half years apart, we’ve never stopped choosing each other. This isn’t some love story we’ve had to put on hold. We’re living it every day. We’ve missed moments together with Wills and Ivy that we’ll never get back. But through all of it, we’re closer than we’ve ever been.’

I ask what he imagines doing first when she comes home. ‘We will go home and talk with our kids. We will stay up all night, make a fire. And I will hold her in my arms. I will find peace again. And then we will wake up and live the rest of our lives together as it’s meant to be.’

If he’d known where their lives would lead, would he still have chosen her? His answer is immediate.

‘Knowing what I know now, I would still make this decision again a million times. I feel so insanely blessed to have her and these beautiful kids together.’

He is aware that viewers of You Can See Everything may draw very different conclusions about the couple after seeing the film. But, he says, ‘The only question I’d ask anyone watching is: what would you do to protect someone you love?’

Daphne Barak is a senior interviewer and documentary film maker. Daphne is also a cancer survivor who has a fast-growing charity with the University of California, San Diego.